Showing posts with label stearic acid soap recipe. Show all posts
Showing posts with label stearic acid soap recipe. Show all posts

Wednesday, January 23, 2019

Liquid Soap from Rebatch Lye Heavy Soap

Making liquid soap from rebatched lye heavy soap is super great! Only thing is you need to know how much oil to put in. Ive made two liquid soaps from a rebatch and this last one was the best!
Because I knew how much oil i forgot. But now what Ive winged it 4 times and followed with great success two online recipes i think i can eyeball the amount of extra oil i can add into the rebatch and still come away with something soapy. Alternately you can make a small amount of new soap to add in the rebatch if using over fatted glycerin river type soaps.
When you rebatch for liquid soap add alcohol to the grated soap and heat it in the crock pot. i was lucky to find an unused looking mini one at value village. i havent died from using it or any of the soaps so i guess its ok to sell soaps made using the second hand crock pot? like what if they cooked chopped up dogs that passed of old age, or road kill squirrels? would i know?
So back to rebatching the grated soap, ive been using the ratio i found online from evik and the french lady on youtube, for the extra liquids you add melted stearic acid in the end, but during the process you add in glycerin and sugar and salt and ive been using xylitol because i cant get sorbitol right now, ive also used sodium lactate, ive added ipm at the end, i only use distilled water, i use the strong ethanol with camphor because its the only one i can find at 94% proof at the shop, and dilute it for spraying, it makes the soap smell cool and as if it smelled like what evaporation would smell like. but not evaporation from hot sidewalks or car roofs. more like the evaporation of a strong mint tea, or a pot of simmering herbs, and cold. the soap to water ratio aimed for is no more than 100 grams total until the end of procedure for up to 300 grams soap for a solid soap, but for the liquid soap its up to you how watery you want it, but i add the water at the very end. im not using potassium hydroxide which is what youre supposed to use for liquid soap. i cant find it locally. so making the soap is difficult and long because i always peek and need to stir and sometimes scrape down the sides but apparently i saw on youtube you can cover the pot with plastic wrap and never stir it but im not sure i have the right pot for that. so i add first alcohol, up to 50 grams,  cover pot and let that dissolve the grated soap in heat. after a while, since my little pot is little, 15 mins or so, i check and give it a stir, spraying top of soap with alcohol so it doesnt dry out. i add a mixture of sugar xylitol glycerin salt water a bit at a time, up to 50 grams, ive used more, sparying the bubbles that form as i break up the soap paste, i keep doing this until it forms a uniform paste and cover, at some point the paste start to liquify at the base and i usually keep adding more grated soap until the pot is full, about 500 grams. until the entire thing is full, paste, and starts to liquify, i keep spraying it with alcohol and cover it and leave it covered until i can blend in melted stearic acid. i have been adding half the recommended stearic acid for liquid soap, about 20 grams for about 400 grams soap. when the soap is liquified (the top usually has bubbles which i remove because im impatient) i pour in the melted stearic acid and blend the soap in the crock pot and remelt the entire thing, occasionally spraying the top so it never dries out, then this clarifies again and then you can add water, at this point,  the soap should not be cloudy. Add preservative at cooling! No way is this soap going to go bad I want to keep it forever because it took so long to make. This is a long process that takes hours but yields an insanely mild and lovely liquid soap. I am using the melt and pour glycerin soap recipe from evik (curious-soapmaker.com) and a comment from her blog, a translation from a french youtube video for the structure and ratio concepts. I have a huge bottle of home made liquid soap now and im going to experiment with it for shampoo, and other washes because i got some SLSa powder. Its supposed to be not sls but i dont know why i got it actually, i got it to add to watery moisturizers for thick body washes. also im super excited to smell this soap.  the soap was the lemon milk (vanilla) and a creamy magnolia (new perfume blend!)
I never liked vanilla but it turns out when i use it in blends i freakin love it.
lol the soap turned into a thick gel like paste the next morning. maybe try No Stearic Acid. guess whos making some soap cream experiments today?

Wednesday, December 19, 2018

Soap Making Update

Here are all the pics I haven't inserted in the soap making posts.
All in one Bar !

 this is my favorite soap
its almost finished cos i accidentally started using it because it smells so good
 and also because the bars are so badly cut i dont want to sell them which is unfortunate
 because despite the bad cuts
 its a ghost soap
 by accident. i mismeasured and made the mold too big and made another batch to put on top but by the time the soap and fragrance blend was ready to pour, the other soap was already gelling,
 the smell... only starting to come back now, a month later.... i still have about 5 bars
 my fave soap so far, the ideal coconut oil soap ratio
 scented with blackberry and violet leaf which i named ivy league pillow party: purple garden poison. i kind of want to incorporate it into the smoking violets .... which hasnt been fully made and is getting a rewrite.







Thursday, July 05, 2018

Chypre Sunflower Stearic Acid Soap (cold process - gel phase)

Sunflower soap with Stearic Acid scented with the classic Chypre

im so excited to use this in the shower!!!!
and what concentration?

going to replicate the same recipe. i posted it on twitter. and no trying to gel phase it. the gel phased soap is still soft and i cant smell any of the mild blend i added in.

so i will add the .5 grams of the oil blend at trace because thats what i did with the first cannabis soap (the coconut one) and how the scent dissipates is amazing.

OK I HAVE MADE THE SOAP
couldnt find the container so i ended up using a milk carton. then i found the container but it was too late.

put it by the window about 10-20 mintes after mixing in the essential oil blend (because i was hesitant to gel phase it due to the citrus oils and heat) but im glad i did. i wonder how long this will take to dry and what colour it will end up. it wasnt as bright white as the original sunflower with stearic acid soap due to the essential oil blend.

 see that cracked surface
its a good sign according to eviks blog


going to make one more with the peru balsam chypre blend i made last night.

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i didnt. i made the regular chypre with the green chypre (i made two versions, one has a green note from cape may and green coffee and actual cannabis live resin "atomic jack" strain)

so here is the gelled soap unboxed. i put it in the freezer for a bit because i am impatient.


its not as white as the unscented one. to note: the unscented one kind of smells like stale cooking oil now. im not sure if it smells like that when used though
:(

and here is the other one, not gelled


this soap smells great. its got this classic cologne scent.
pops out of the mold really easy. i suppose some point ill have an actual soap mold. or find another suitable organizer.

this girl said the chypre scent to her smells like some kind of chest rub?
i was disappointed. lol.
the benzoin vetiver and sandalwood blend she said smells like grass and wood. so i guess thats pretty accurate. overall impression i dont think she liked either of them. lol.
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 they are so nice and shiny when polished a bit

 

Wednesday, July 04, 2018

Soft Oil soap with Stearic Acid

making a stearic acid soap while reading about the stearic acid saponification
and found this!! http://swiftcraftymonkey.blogspot.com/2017/07/lushs-main-emulsifier-stearic-acid-and.html

here is the post on twitter and will upload it on the blog later with details

https://twitter.com/AromatherapyTO/status/1014500913279651842

ok wow this soap
i need to do it again
and leave it in the mold!!
and add no scent
because this is the first evidence of gel phase, except for the initial trials when i didnt fully know what i was doing.and since i took it out of the mold, is this partial gel phase? because it would have just kept melting and turned into clear liquid again probably.

here are the pics
weighed everything out
 melting the stearic acid
 added the oils and the stearic acid solidified again
 reheating the oils and stearic acid
 right before boiling point of the water in the pan
 hot enough so i turned it off
 mixed in the lye and oils at around 100 degrees Fahrenheit
 was thick right upon contact of the lye
 this is after using the mixer
 such a creamy batter
 after a couple hours it was popping out of the mold
 so i popped it out
 and thought this was it
 then i wanted it to gel phase (outside of the mold was wrong)
 and it did!!!!!
 it almost collapsed when i checked the box. actually i put it out in the sun outside, then i took it back in because i changed my mind then i put it back in the box and by the window under the sun and by the time the sun moved it must have been less than an hour, i checked the box and it was So Soft and i freaked out cos its gel
so now its cooling off and it looks super nice.
will repeat the sun-gel phase and measure the temperature to see if the essential oils i can add will dissipate during process

ok its cut.
yipee!!!
(5 pm)
so if i moved quicker it would have been done by 3!!


im using one half for me
in the shower
today.

.:

ok i just touched it.
it feels oily and its a bit cold and theres a bit of precipitation on it. maybe ill wait till tomorrow to use it.

ok it took me 5 seconds to slice off a bit and use it on my hands and its kinda soft and it totally works and i can faintly smell the hemp seed oil and the cannabis blend

this soap if repeated may take forever to fully harden because its ins value is very low (98) despite it already having fully saponified.  leaves a nice feeling on my hand and a natural plant / straw scent on my skin. ugh i want to use it right now but i dont want it to melt all away in the shower and its probably super alkaline. where are those test strips?
i have zero patience.

tomorrow will remake the cannabis soap with french green clay and gel phase it with hopes the essential oils wont dissipate.
.:

(i havent done this i made other soaps)

these bars are kind of squishy and i havent tried them yet in the shower i want them a bit firmer before ruining them :D

--- this sunflower soap with stearic acid (ungelled) goes slimy after a few uses. booo. will wait till the end of the month and try again after saponification is done.

Tuesday, July 03, 2018

Adding Stearic Acid to Sunflower soap

so this is the soap from earlier, its not the same recipe as the potentially dreaded orange spots soap thats actually got dreaded lye pockets. its got .7% stearic acid because i read it in this forum post
https://www.soapmakingforum.com/threads/stearic-acid.43182/

but i formulated a different recipe using the soap calc using up to 10% stearic acid and got this
Hardness29 - 5427
Cleansing12 - 225
Conditioning44 - 6971
Bubbly14 - 4611
Creamy16 - 4827
Iodine41 - 70104
INS136 - 16596

might try that recipe tomorrow for the next soap trial.

hey ive given away almost all the soaps ive made :(
have a piece of each one since the start though.

because i havent bought a tub for disinfecting, and all the specific things for soaping only, and im in a kitchen that i cleaned so i know what it looked like before, im just kind of turned off, its not clean enough, or new enough, this house is pretty old and hadnt been cleaned since i moved in.

anyway here is the pic of the .7% stearic acid sunflower soap.

it firmed up right away, used the submersion mixer.

this is what the soap calc gave me for this soap:
Soap Bar QualityRangeYour Recipe
Hardness29 - 5412
Cleansing12 - 220
Conditioning44 - 6986
Bubbly14 - 460
Creamy16 - 4812
Iodine41 - 70132
INS136 - 16564

the recipe is
64.55 grams sunflower oil
.45 grams stearic acid
8.79 grams lye
21.97 grams water

its not adding the stearic acid into trace, its saponifying using the sap value. this is how i formulated the recipe for tomorrow, by saponifying the stearic acid with the soft oils.

have a go at this recipe, tweak it however you like! its a conditioning bar according to the soapcalc, but if you replace about 10 grams of coconut oil it will be more cleansing. its also got a lot of time to add essential oil, so you can reduce the oil by .5 grams and add that at trace, maybe a nice creamy scent like benzoin in .5 carrier at trace,  one drop is probably all you need!
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midnight,
it popped right out of the mold!
i love using the mixer.  such a bright white colour too. will i ever learn how to gel? the first soaps gelled... what happened



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i cut it today (the next day)
it is hard! doesnt press into with firm pressure
it was slow to bubble (3-5 seconds) and the bubbles are creamy and smallish, not big bubbles like coconut oil
the one drop of benzoin didnt scent it at all (booooo) maybe after it sits for a while the scent will come through because i added cedar and .... i forgot, its in my notes

so great!!!

 hey
it doesnt smell like anything because i didnt scent this soap LOL

;-)

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ok so the soap is totally fine cleansing wise. i have been over washing my hands. woops. so now after using the sample in hot water and really rubbing my fingers into it, it has done sometime
pa dah!
totally unexpected and cool!
i think its the glycerine and its forming peaks, and the soap melts but dosent dissolve and is this clear gel for a bit and its, i dont know what it is! it washes off and its just what the stearic acid does, i guess. if *you* know whats going on here post a comment!


so i wanted to add castor oil because i read somewhere (i lost the link :( that it increases the solubility of the soap but i need to look that up again

its so trippy!
also the bar is very hard!
and it did this great thing where it wiped the grease off my finger (bike grease, from my bicycle) only thing is, its a bit drying right at my fingertips because i was using it for too long and really using my fingertips to mush into it, but it didnt mush and stayed its shape (compared to the milk and honey soap- that one needs to cure forever its so soft)
but my grubby hands are totally clean now even under my fingernails.
pretty sweet.
did i make a candle?